1 00:00:05,885 --> 00:00:08,096 Previously on The West Wing: 2 00:00:08,267 --> 00:00:11,642 -Oh, I hate this. Can I just go? -I don't think so. 3 00:00:12,905 --> 00:00:14,948 Mom's getting remarried. 4 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:17,750 I know that. 5 00:00:18,086 --> 00:00:19,833 -You know that? -She called me. 6 00:00:20,008 --> 00:00:22,301 Do any of you guys know where the dumpsters are? 7 00:00:23,435 --> 00:00:26,311 Yeah. It's okay. I'll find them. 8 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:29,150 -Who's that? -A walking lawsuit. 9 00:00:29,368 --> 00:00:33,075 Toby's taking first chair on State of the Union, not just writing it. 10 00:00:33,254 --> 00:00:35,714 The agenda. Great. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:43,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 12 00:00:45,957 --> 00:00:48,963 -Now I remember why I love this night. -Because in two hours... 13 00:00:49,132 --> 00:00:51,544 ...you'll have a sour mash and nothing to rewrite. 14 00:00:51,723 --> 00:00:54,515 -The press conference was a hit. -The president did well. 15 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:57,862 Ranting on cable about "that liberal pantywaist soft on crime"? 16 00:00:58,074 --> 00:00:59,536 -What we expected. -What? 17 00:00:59,704 --> 00:01:04,124 Extra gum for your big night. It's okay. We all get oral when nervous. 18 00:01:06,097 --> 00:01:10,767 -You heading over to pace on the Hill? -After I finish pacing here. 19 00:01:11,278 --> 00:01:13,571 Did the special guests arrive? 20 00:01:14,454 --> 00:01:17,793 --less than two hours to deliver his State of the Union address. 21 00:01:17,964 --> 00:01:19,341 It remains to be seen.... 22 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:22,766 -It's Gentle Ben on hold. -You put him on hold? 23 00:01:22,978 --> 00:01:26,733 -That's what you told me to do. -Carol, maybe you ought to-- 24 00:01:27,365 --> 00:01:29,195 -C.J. -Donna, my darling... 25 00:01:29,371 --> 00:01:33,791 ...would you pick up line one and tell this guy you can't find me? 26 00:01:34,677 --> 00:01:36,472 What's wrong? 27 00:01:36,641 --> 00:01:39,267 Leo won't wanna tell him before the State of the Union. 28 00:01:39,441 --> 00:01:41,484 Might throw him off his game. 29 00:01:41,655 --> 00:01:44,995 -And hit him with it leaving the podium? -Guy couldn't wait one hour. 30 00:01:45,165 --> 00:01:46,960 My God, Toby. 31 00:01:47,129 --> 00:01:50,219 Yeah. You're right. Sorry. 32 00:01:51,391 --> 00:01:53,387 Has--? He hasn't left, has he? 33 00:01:53,564 --> 00:01:55,525 They're having tea. 34 00:01:56,572 --> 00:01:58,117 -You heard? -It hit the wires? 35 00:01:58,286 --> 00:02:00,531 I got a call. Does the president know? 36 00:02:07,311 --> 00:02:09,022 Charlie? 37 00:02:09,776 --> 00:02:12,902 -Ms. Anders? -"Ms. "? 38 00:02:13,203 --> 00:02:16,578 -You sorry son of a-- -Charlie, are we...? 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,340 I beg your pardon. 40 00:02:20,515 --> 00:02:22,595 Mr. President, may I have a moment? 41 00:03:21,980 --> 00:03:23,810 -Oh, my God. -Yeah. 42 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:27,197 I am so-- What did I just do? 43 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:36,050 -Not since my kid brother. -You're a natural, then. 44 00:03:36,228 --> 00:03:38,391 -You deserved it. -We can't do this now. 45 00:03:38,610 --> 00:03:41,320 -I shouldn't have come. -How did you even get in? 46 00:03:41,493 --> 00:03:43,656 What, without you to wave me in? 47 00:03:43,833 --> 00:03:45,710 We really can't do this. 48 00:03:45,881 --> 00:03:48,840 -A one-night thing was better? -Three weeks was too long. 49 00:03:49,056 --> 00:03:51,979 Charlie? They're ready. 50 00:04:12,957 --> 00:04:15,333 Less than $ 100. 51 00:04:15,548 --> 00:04:17,211 -Hey. -Thanks for having me. 52 00:04:17,386 --> 00:04:19,798 You sneaking out? Gonna breakdance at 3. 53 00:04:19,977 --> 00:04:22,020 Happy New Year. 54 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:27,286 Look, I'm not proud. I'll take my rights on the installment plan. 55 00:04:27,456 --> 00:04:30,748 -A voting delegate for the District? -Give Utah their own chamber. 56 00:04:30,924 --> 00:04:33,681 A specially-created House seat could be an obstacle... 57 00:04:33,849 --> 00:04:35,845 -...to D.C. statehood. -Don't lose any sleep. 58 00:04:36,022 --> 00:04:39,278 I disagree. A seat for us, balanced by one for Mormon missionaries. 59 00:04:39,448 --> 00:04:42,538 -That something-for-everyone feel? -And from Congressman Drake. 60 00:04:42,749 --> 00:04:45,245 Drake didn't propose a bill. He floated a notion. 61 00:04:45,465 --> 00:04:47,711 He took heat over sponsoring D.C. vouchers. 62 00:04:48,139 --> 00:04:51,515 -So you think it's just talk? -Folks in the District are no closer... 63 00:04:51,691 --> 00:04:54,269 -...to the vote than our ancestors. -Can I quote you? 64 00:04:54,574 --> 00:04:56,737 -You're a reporter? -Wannabe. 65 00:04:56,914 --> 00:04:59,588 I'm an intern at The Afro-American. 66 00:04:59,755 --> 00:05:01,752 Meeshell Anders. 67 00:05:02,095 --> 00:05:04,507 I read The Afro, every time I'm in a barbershop. 68 00:05:04,728 --> 00:05:06,355 That's our market penetration. 69 00:05:06,525 --> 00:05:08,854 I can't really give you that for attribution. 70 00:05:09,032 --> 00:05:10,944 But if you wanna say "White House staffer" ... . 71 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,831 -Am I mad at you? -It's not my question. It's Ben's. 72 00:05:17,597 --> 00:05:20,307 Of the husky voice, no last name and the 907 area code? 73 00:05:20,481 --> 00:05:23,023 He said you never return calls, and are you mad at him? 74 00:05:23,238 --> 00:05:25,734 -What'd you say? -That you'd have to get back. 75 00:05:25,913 --> 00:05:29,122 -Toby. Great draft, Shakespeare. -Oh, thanks. 76 00:05:29,297 --> 00:05:32,423 Really, you nailed it. State of the Union's finished. 77 00:05:32,598 --> 00:05:33,929 Okay. 78 00:05:34,102 --> 00:05:36,432 What are you gonna do the next two weeks? 79 00:05:36,609 --> 00:05:39,105 -Dot the I's. -I've got pollsters waiting. 80 00:05:39,284 --> 00:05:41,530 -They tested this draft? -That's their job. 81 00:05:41,707 --> 00:05:43,750 I'm sure they're gonna love it. 82 00:05:45,342 --> 00:05:47,719 Really? Joey Lucas stopped by? 83 00:05:47,891 --> 00:05:50,351 She was sorry you weren't in yet. Nice suit. 84 00:05:50,524 --> 00:05:53,150 Was it a heads-up, pre-meeting kind of stopping by... 85 00:05:53,323 --> 00:05:55,534 ...or a "long time no see" kind of stopping by? 86 00:05:55,705 --> 00:05:57,166 You know, I couldn't tell. 87 00:05:57,334 --> 00:05:59,627 -How'd she look? -Great. 88 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,212 -I heard she was seeing someone. -I think she is. 89 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:04,101 -She say she was seeing someone? -No. 90 00:06:04,271 --> 00:06:06,731 So who knows? Maybe the time is ripe. 91 00:06:06,903 --> 00:06:08,698 Maybe not so much. 92 00:06:08,867 --> 00:06:12,123 That's not very supportive, here at the start of a new year... 93 00:06:12,293 --> 00:06:16,298 ...with clean slates, broad horizons and anything's possible. 94 00:06:16,472 --> 00:06:18,552 Josh. 95 00:06:24,244 --> 00:06:27,535 And with women the draft scored even higher. 96 00:06:27,712 --> 00:06:30,884 You can see spikes in all your policy priorities. 97 00:06:31,055 --> 00:06:34,096 In the 80 percentile in education and job retraining. 98 00:06:34,272 --> 00:06:36,898 Where's the "room to improve" addendum? 99 00:06:37,072 --> 00:06:38,984 There isn't any. 100 00:06:39,161 --> 00:06:41,656 We've never seen this before, but two weeks out... 101 00:06:41,835 --> 00:06:44,128 ...you've locked the State of the Union message. 102 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:48,471 -Well, that's impressive, Toby. -Come on, the section on anti-terrorism. 103 00:06:49,022 --> 00:06:54,239 It didn't make people sing "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning," but... . 104 00:06:55,373 --> 00:06:57,535 She wants you to know she actually sang that. 105 00:06:58,382 --> 00:07:01,341 But it was well within the "interested" range. 106 00:07:01,515 --> 00:07:06,067 We'll put it out to mall tests next week, get feedback on the key paragraph. 107 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,369 Yeah, because we haven't really found that yet. 108 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:12,420 It's not the writing that we'll examine. 109 00:07:12,588 --> 00:07:16,427 Mall tests are about tone, how the president should deliver the speech. 110 00:07:16,934 --> 00:07:19,644 -We'll hire a spokesman. -An actor? 111 00:07:20,444 --> 00:07:22,939 -Not a known actor. -Oh, that's better. 112 00:07:23,118 --> 00:07:25,661 -Purchase intent dramatically-- -"Purchase intent"? 113 00:07:25,834 --> 00:07:28,211 What are we doing, selling cornflakes? 114 00:07:28,592 --> 00:07:31,468 -Come out and watch. -Good idea, Toby. 115 00:07:31,642 --> 00:07:34,982 It doesn't sound like you have anything else to do. 116 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:41,576 The Freeway Alert Bill is on a fast track. 117 00:07:41,754 --> 00:07:44,249 The Senate may have something to sign before recess. 118 00:07:44,470 --> 00:07:47,845 Grants to track kidnappers? I think the president would welcome that. 119 00:07:48,022 --> 00:07:51,147 Yeah, well, there's an amendment. 120 00:07:53,621 --> 00:07:55,415 All your plane tickets are e-tickets. 121 00:07:57,089 --> 00:07:59,584 Flights confirmed. Buffalo, Grand Rapids, Bradenton. 122 00:07:59,805 --> 00:08:03,644 Joey Lucas will meet you at the mall. Your research assistant has the itinerary. 123 00:08:03,816 --> 00:08:05,896 -Then why tell me? -I wasn't sure she-- 124 00:08:06,114 --> 00:08:09,287 She's new. This position is kind of a jump for her. 125 00:08:09,457 --> 00:08:11,038 She compiled clippings at Energy. 126 00:08:11,212 --> 00:08:13,292 Leo's been pressuring you to hire someone... 127 00:08:13,468 --> 00:08:15,964 ...and she was helpful during the shutdown, but-- 128 00:08:16,143 --> 00:08:18,222 I thought I'd give her a shot. 129 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:21,441 -Just know if she doesn't work out... . -Cab's here, Mr. Ziegler. 130 00:08:21,616 --> 00:08:23,613 Ready for blastoff? 131 00:08:25,502 --> 00:08:27,415 Have a good trip. 132 00:08:37,035 --> 00:08:39,411 Can she write as well as she slow-dances? 133 00:08:39,584 --> 00:08:41,330 Leo and Josh are already in there. 134 00:08:41,506 --> 00:08:43,668 You always move in so fast, or is she special? 135 00:08:43,846 --> 00:08:45,806 Not your business, but we hit it off. 136 00:08:45,977 --> 00:08:49,067 -You find time for a love life? -I did have to cancel Sunday. 137 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:51,904 -An attempted coup in Riyadh. -Excuses, excuses. 138 00:08:52,077 --> 00:08:54,917 Tonight, I was home free with the president at the opera... 139 00:08:55,086 --> 00:08:57,498 -...but he bailed, and you're here. -Don't cancel. 140 00:08:58,345 --> 00:09:01,767 Go late. A demanding job is a strong aphrodisiac. 141 00:09:02,147 --> 00:09:03,858 Are you the devil? 142 00:09:04,028 --> 00:09:07,069 It's folks who act like angels I worry about. 143 00:09:09,627 --> 00:09:10,957 -It arrived? -It did. 144 00:09:11,131 --> 00:09:13,092 Hicks Amendment not in disappearing ink? 145 00:09:13,262 --> 00:09:15,057 -Unfortunately. -He can sign this. 146 00:09:15,226 --> 00:09:16,937 The body of the bill is right-on. 147 00:09:17,106 --> 00:09:19,602 Helps communities mobilize when a child is abducted. 148 00:09:19,780 --> 00:09:22,240 The amendment isn't limited to kidnapping. 149 00:09:22,413 --> 00:09:24,955 It toughens federal sentencing for all offenses. 150 00:09:25,129 --> 00:09:28,171 No congressman ever lost re-election for looking tough on crime. 151 00:09:28,346 --> 00:09:31,852 Any president vetoing a crime bill risks becoming the Pillsbury Doughboy. 152 00:09:32,023 --> 00:09:34,103 At least he's got 10 working days to decide. 153 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:37,536 If he does veto, it can wait until after the State of the Union. 154 00:09:38,207 --> 00:09:40,084 Mr. President, Abbey. 155 00:09:40,798 --> 00:09:45,053 -Turandot wasn't all you hoped for. -Yeah, I'm becoming a cultural wimp. 156 00:09:45,227 --> 00:09:48,483 Can't even sit through Puccini without banking a good night's sleep. 157 00:09:48,653 --> 00:09:50,899 You certainly haven't done that lately. 158 00:09:51,077 --> 00:09:54,333 So Congress launched another assault on judicial discretion? 159 00:09:54,503 --> 00:09:56,380 I think they were aiming at kidnappers. 160 00:09:56,551 --> 00:09:58,963 Slipped in the amendment hoping we wouldn't notice. 161 00:09:59,141 --> 00:10:02,682 Indiana's in a budget crunch. They had to mothball a new state prison. 162 00:10:02,860 --> 00:10:04,523 Hicks'd like to reassure voters... 163 00:10:04,699 --> 00:10:07,408 ...the Federal Bureau of Prisons will take up the slack. 164 00:10:07,582 --> 00:10:10,838 -I should've issued those pardons. -You've had a few things to do. 165 00:10:11,008 --> 00:10:14,181 Congress doesn't know I'm serious about these Draconian sentences. 166 00:10:14,351 --> 00:10:17,642 Sir, I don't think issuing pardons would have stopped Congress. 167 00:10:17,861 --> 00:10:21,616 -No. They've been at it for 30 years. -Yeah, war on drugs. War on crime. 168 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:25,080 -It turned into a war on judges. -We don't need subtle minds... 169 00:10:25,257 --> 00:10:28,263 ...on the bench? Is Counsel even working on a list of pardons? 170 00:10:28,474 --> 00:10:31,266 -Of course. That's ongoing. -But never gets done. 171 00:10:31,482 --> 00:10:33,360 Let's talk to Justice. Get back into it. 172 00:10:33,572 --> 00:10:34,985 Yes, sir. 173 00:10:35,661 --> 00:10:39,880 Of course, with the run-up to the State of the Union, this isn't the best time. 174 00:10:40,048 --> 00:10:43,470 We need to stay focused. The fallout over Gabriel Lessieur alone-- 175 00:10:43,642 --> 00:10:45,436 Someone wants to pardon Lessieur? 176 00:10:45,606 --> 00:10:49,527 I think Lessieur's case merits consideration. 177 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:51,031 Sorry, ma'am. 178 00:10:51,205 --> 00:10:53,498 Not as sorry as you'll be if she gets started... 179 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:57,259 ...on what the FBI did or didn't do on that Indian reservation in 1977. 180 00:10:57,431 --> 00:11:01,388 Sir, you know I'm only concerned with timing. This bill isn't perfect. 181 00:11:01,567 --> 00:11:04,490 But you sign it now, you arrive for the State of the Union... 182 00:11:04,659 --> 00:11:07,999 -...in a spirit of renewed cooperation. -Something to sleep on. 183 00:11:08,169 --> 00:11:10,499 -Speaking euphemistically. -There's always hope. 184 00:11:10,676 --> 00:11:12,090 -Good night, all. -Good night. 185 00:11:12,264 --> 00:11:13,595 Good night, Abbey. 186 00:11:13,768 --> 00:11:15,931 Good night, Charlie. Go home. 187 00:11:17,487 --> 00:11:20,113 Could there be a worse time to consider pardons? 188 00:11:20,328 --> 00:11:24,203 -I don't want him distracted. -Should I drag my feet? 189 00:11:24,507 --> 00:11:27,050 -Don't break your neck. -Is that how it usually works? 190 00:11:27,223 --> 00:11:30,598 -The First Lady tees him up? -I've never seen her weigh in like that. 191 00:11:30,775 --> 00:11:33,068 -Not on policy. -You missed her homecoming. 192 00:11:33,282 --> 00:11:36,122 -Okay. Enough. -But is this their dynamic? 193 00:11:36,290 --> 00:11:41,008 -It's new to me. Leo? -He's sleeping on it. That's all I heard. 194 00:11:52,419 --> 00:11:54,795 -Where's this coming from? -Put a damper on it. 195 00:11:54,968 --> 00:11:57,380 -The president isn't considering pardons? -Right. 196 00:11:59,063 --> 00:12:01,059 He's not commuting tribal head Lessieur... 197 00:12:01,235 --> 00:12:03,148 ...convicted for killing two FBI agents? 198 00:12:03,325 --> 00:12:05,452 -No. -No clemency for a former Republican... 199 00:12:05,623 --> 00:12:08,380 ...governor indicted for fraud and diagnosed with cancer? 200 00:12:08,548 --> 00:12:11,304 -No. -Why does all the press think he is? 201 00:12:11,473 --> 00:12:14,895 Maybe because we called the assistant A.G. in charge of clemencies... 202 00:12:15,066 --> 00:12:17,193 ...asking the pardon attorney from Justice... 203 00:12:17,364 --> 00:12:19,241 ...to meet with the Counsel's office. 204 00:12:19,412 --> 00:12:23,797 So how about, "The ongoing process of reviewing petitions is proceeding... 205 00:12:23,966 --> 00:12:26,758 ...but the president is not considering pardons now. " 206 00:12:26,933 --> 00:12:28,680 That works. 207 00:12:41,850 --> 00:12:44,690 -What's all this? -Counsel's office sent these over. 208 00:12:44,858 --> 00:12:47,651 The case files for the meeting with the pardon attorney. 209 00:12:47,825 --> 00:12:51,913 -I didn't think there'd be so many. -There're only 36, but no short stories. 210 00:12:52,087 --> 00:12:55,593 Each file has the original trial record, a petition by the prisoner... 211 00:12:55,764 --> 00:12:59,020 ...the Bureau of Prisons' recommendation, DOJ recommendation... 212 00:12:59,191 --> 00:13:02,197 -...Counsel's preliminary report. -Don't leave them here. 213 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:06,038 -They said you wanted to take a look. -I said "we," and when I said we-- 214 00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:08,463 -You meant me. -I'll help you. 215 00:13:08,676 --> 00:13:10,339 -Thanks. -Move them. 216 00:13:10,514 --> 00:13:13,306 -Right. -You'll need a space to spread out. 217 00:13:13,481 --> 00:13:16,820 We need to be familiar with the specifics of each of these petitions. 218 00:13:16,991 --> 00:13:19,569 -And when you say "we" ... . -That's the spirit. 219 00:13:22,005 --> 00:13:26,640 Each participant is paid $ 10 to answer a battery of questions... 220 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:30,232 ...and then listen to one of three versions of the speech. 221 00:13:31,197 --> 00:13:34,953 In booth A, we have execution one. 222 00:13:35,125 --> 00:13:37,585 And we know that the hard work of forming... 223 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,555 ... this more perfect union belongs to us all. 224 00:13:41,727 --> 00:13:45,434 -The state of our union is strong. -Booth two is version B. 225 00:13:45,613 --> 00:13:48,370 The state of our union is strong. 226 00:13:48,538 --> 00:13:52,412 With courage, with faith in our democratic foundation... 227 00:13:52,842 --> 00:13:55,468 -...and the human spirit it fosters-- -And booth three. 228 00:13:55,683 --> 00:14:01,280 --that the hard work of forming this more perfect union belongs to us all. 229 00:14:01,909 --> 00:14:04,405 -The state of our union.... -Which will they go for? 230 00:14:04,583 --> 00:14:07,839 The Amana fridge, Samsonite luggage or door number three? 231 00:14:08,762 --> 00:14:14,014 Most of my political clients are reassured to know that these tests work in sales. 232 00:14:15,113 --> 00:14:16,943 What about your commercial clients? 233 00:14:19,082 --> 00:14:22,339 -They like knowing they work in politics. -It's gotta be version B. 234 00:14:22,509 --> 00:14:26,514 It's strong but not mean. That's the one, right? 235 00:14:26,687 --> 00:14:32,036 It is. B's showing a significant 26-percent movement in purchase intent. 236 00:14:32,203 --> 00:14:33,783 -I need some coffee. -I'll get it. 237 00:14:33,958 --> 00:14:35,870 No. I'd rather, thank you. 238 00:14:36,089 --> 00:14:39,928 Okay, well, don't forget, we're a left turn at the Mrs. Fields. 239 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,020 It's usually slow on weekends. We'll get takeout. 240 00:14:43,359 --> 00:14:45,689 And I'll give you a tour, if that sounds okay. 241 00:14:45,866 --> 00:14:47,363 -Okay. -E-mail me... 242 00:14:47,538 --> 00:14:51,839 ...your date of birth and social so I can wave you in. I'll call you later? 243 00:14:52,009 --> 00:14:54,968 Any chance of five minutes for a meet-and-greet next Friday? 244 00:14:55,142 --> 00:14:57,353 -Friday? -The vice president is in Atlanta... 245 00:14:57,524 --> 00:14:59,567 ...and the Kaehlers are coming to town. 246 00:14:59,739 --> 00:15:01,866 -They are...? -Robert and Jean Kaehler. 247 00:15:02,037 --> 00:15:05,412 WestCo Mining. One of our best contributors west of the Rockies. 248 00:15:05,630 --> 00:15:07,008 -I'll see. -Thanks. 249 00:15:07,218 --> 00:15:08,929 Don't promise them. 250 00:15:14,029 --> 00:15:15,407 Yes, sir. 251 00:15:15,575 --> 00:15:20,827 Did you know Woodrow Wilson averaged 344 acts of clemency a year? 252 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:24,097 -I didn't. -Calvin Coolidge managed 326. 253 00:15:24,266 --> 00:15:30,113 FDR was over 300 yearly, for a grand total of 3687. 254 00:15:30,283 --> 00:15:34,240 Until the last 40 years, presidents routinely exercised their power... 255 00:15:34,420 --> 00:15:38,757 ...as stated in the Constitution, to give relief against harsh sentences. 256 00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:43,687 Recent presidents have averaged 40, 20 and 7 pardons a year. 257 00:15:43,863 --> 00:15:47,404 -Why'd we get so stingy? -Law and order's a national concern. 258 00:15:47,582 --> 00:15:49,994 And the pardon process has become less transparent. 259 00:15:50,214 --> 00:15:52,425 No records kept, no rationales given. 260 00:15:52,596 --> 00:15:54,973 The ones we do remember, the Eugene Debs... 261 00:15:55,145 --> 00:15:59,019 ...the Jimmy Hoffas, were controversial, if not downright scandals. 262 00:15:59,198 --> 00:16:03,417 You understand, sir, I'm not against you issuing pardons. 263 00:16:03,585 --> 00:16:06,426 The benign prerogative, that's what Hamilton called them. 264 00:16:06,636 --> 00:16:09,559 Benign? It's a bag of lit dynamite. 265 00:16:10,438 --> 00:16:13,230 Yeah, maybe the FBI bungled its investigation... 266 00:16:13,405 --> 00:16:15,817 ...on an Indian reservation 30 years ago. 267 00:16:16,037 --> 00:16:18,248 And maybe we let the wrong guy go... 268 00:16:18,419 --> 00:16:20,629 ...from puberty to retirement in a prison cell. 269 00:16:20,801 --> 00:16:23,557 And sure, maybe it would be a generous act... 270 00:16:23,726 --> 00:16:27,065 ...of bipartisanship to forgive an ex-governor who's battling cancer-- 271 00:16:27,235 --> 00:16:31,740 Who never would have gone to trial if a Republican were sitting in this office. 272 00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:35,380 I know the First Lady has received letters from tribal leaders-- 273 00:16:35,592 --> 00:16:38,682 Is Josh sitting in on this meeting with Justice today? 274 00:16:38,852 --> 00:16:41,062 -He's in and out. -The attorney general send... 275 00:16:41,233 --> 00:16:44,156 -...a deputy with a heartbeat? -Fisk didn't send a deputy A.G. 276 00:16:44,325 --> 00:16:45,656 Just the pardon attorney. 277 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:48,752 The A.G. expects White House Counsel to sit down without a-- 278 00:16:48,922 --> 00:16:52,712 Actually, Counsel isn't in this either. It's more preliminary. 279 00:16:53,518 --> 00:16:56,275 Is deputy counsel there? 280 00:16:57,989 --> 00:16:59,569 Who is in this meeting, Leo? 281 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:02,626 So that's my main concern. If Josh doesn't return-- 282 00:17:02,794 --> 00:17:05,372 -I'll get you an answer. -We need guidance. 283 00:17:05,594 --> 00:17:08,684 Is the president looking for packing peanuts, or does he want--? 284 00:17:08,853 --> 00:17:11,895 -"Packing peanuts"? -Yeah. 285 00:17:12,070 --> 00:17:13,817 Please, everyone, sit. 286 00:17:13,992 --> 00:17:17,534 -You're my pardon attorney? -Yes, Mr. President. Portia Colgrave. 287 00:17:18,714 --> 00:17:21,673 You've survived three administrations in this job. Am I right? 288 00:17:21,848 --> 00:17:24,390 -You are, sir. -So how do I stack up? 289 00:17:24,564 --> 00:17:27,606 -You're about at par. -Which ain't saying much, is it? 290 00:17:27,781 --> 00:17:30,027 -May I? -Yes, sir. 291 00:17:30,330 --> 00:17:32,908 This is the list that we've been discussing? 292 00:17:33,088 --> 00:17:36,545 These are first-time offenders who've served at least five years... 293 00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:39,932 ...of a 10-year or longer sentence under the guidelines. 294 00:17:40,108 --> 00:17:42,400 Ten years or longer. All nonviolent? 295 00:17:42,615 --> 00:17:44,242 Oh, yes, Mr. President. 296 00:17:44,495 --> 00:17:46,075 So where were you? 297 00:17:46,292 --> 00:17:49,464 We were about to discuss packing peanuts. 298 00:17:50,679 --> 00:17:53,056 The Roosevelt Room was the president's office... 299 00:17:54,774 --> 00:17:57,983 ...until FDR built the Oval. Here's the communications bullpen. 300 00:17:58,158 --> 00:17:59,870 Slow down. I'm a little overwhelmed. 301 00:18:01,543 --> 00:18:03,872 -My plan's to sweep you off your feet. -You have. 302 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:05,381 You were pretty easy. 303 00:18:05,554 --> 00:18:07,800 And, boy, was I relieved when you called again. 304 00:18:08,312 --> 00:18:11,485 I never do that. I'm actually kind of a prude. 305 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:14,578 Fooled me. This is the West Lobby. 306 00:18:14,747 --> 00:18:16,790 Get your bearings for when you come back. 307 00:18:16,961 --> 00:18:19,636 -What do you mean? -I talked to C.J. about getting you-- 308 00:18:19,803 --> 00:18:22,215 -C.J. Cregg? -Next week, the president's meeting... 309 00:18:22,393 --> 00:18:24,936 ...with college editors for Martin Luther King Day... 310 00:18:25,109 --> 00:18:28,282 ...and I asked C.J. if it would be okay for you to join. 311 00:18:28,452 --> 00:18:30,365 Did you say something after "president"? 312 00:18:30,541 --> 00:18:32,419 lt'll be an intimate group of 60. 313 00:18:32,589 --> 00:18:36,510 -Thank you. I'm nervous already. -I read your piece. You got game. 314 00:18:36,726 --> 00:18:38,686 -Hey, Donna. -Hey, Charlie. 315 00:18:38,857 --> 00:18:40,437 Donna Moss, Meeshell Anders. 316 00:18:40,611 --> 00:18:42,572 -Hi, nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 317 00:18:42,742 --> 00:18:45,072 -Giving Meeshell the nickel tour. -It's great. 318 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:47,044 -We all forget. -Yeah, it's amazing. 319 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:50,136 -Got food coming, if you wanna join us. -You're too polite. 320 00:18:50,305 --> 00:18:53,265 -He's too polite. -What are you doing here today? 321 00:18:53,439 --> 00:18:56,280 Don't ask. It's too depressing. 322 00:18:56,448 --> 00:18:58,409 Nice to meet you. 323 00:19:14,708 --> 00:19:16,918 Packing peanuts, that's what they're called. 324 00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:18,420 The low-profile cases? 325 00:19:18,594 --> 00:19:22,646 Apparently, these nameless offenders can be useful insulation for any cronies... 326 00:19:22,856 --> 00:19:24,899 -...I may wanna spring. -Getting pressure? 327 00:19:25,070 --> 00:19:27,031 All over my call sheet. 328 00:19:27,201 --> 00:19:30,909 If I commute a Chippewa and an indicted Republican, they might cancel... 329 00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:34,213 -...each other out. -But they're off the front burner now? 330 00:19:34,388 --> 00:19:38,095 I know how you feel about Lessieur. I'll consider him in the future. 331 00:19:38,274 --> 00:19:39,855 But it's these packing peanuts... 332 00:19:40,029 --> 00:19:42,572 ...these victims of minimums that are bugging me. 333 00:19:43,288 --> 00:19:46,414 That's what Congress pushed front and center with this amendment. 334 00:19:46,589 --> 00:19:50,178 I can't sign a bill that toughens guidelines and ties judges' hands... 335 00:19:50,350 --> 00:19:53,772 ...then turn around next month and advocate judicial discretion. 336 00:19:53,943 --> 00:19:55,856 -What's in this? -Just warm milk. 337 00:19:56,032 --> 00:19:58,611 -Does this ever work? -It has. 338 00:20:01,005 --> 00:20:04,261 Are you worried this might be another Wallace Turner? 339 00:20:04,431 --> 00:20:06,344 A little, sure. 340 00:20:06,771 --> 00:20:10,646 You were a new governor and listened to the advice of your parole board. 341 00:20:11,117 --> 00:20:14,872 His victim's family probably isn't too comforted by that. 342 00:20:15,504 --> 00:20:17,964 Leo's worried it's the wrong time for pardons. 343 00:20:18,136 --> 00:20:20,466 Leo hates to see you sleepless and distracted... 344 00:20:20,644 --> 00:20:22,973 ...as you're announcing your agenda for the year. 345 00:20:23,151 --> 00:20:25,611 Do you hate to see me sleepless and distracted? 346 00:20:25,783 --> 00:20:28,029 This is just your preamble. 347 00:20:28,207 --> 00:20:30,916 You're about to be inspired. 348 00:20:31,466 --> 00:20:35,173 -Wait. Never mind. -No. It's right here. 349 00:20:43,541 --> 00:20:46,251 -Good finale. -As seen on TV. 350 00:20:47,218 --> 00:20:50,808 -It's a little smaller than I thought. -And dirtier. 351 00:20:51,063 --> 00:20:53,985 Why the press can't clean up after themselves... . 352 00:20:54,531 --> 00:20:56,111 You enjoy the picnic? 353 00:20:56,286 --> 00:20:58,282 On a porch outside the Oval Office? 354 00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:01,500 -It was all right. -And the president only called once. 355 00:21:01,676 --> 00:21:04,386 -Was that really him? -No. I faked it. 356 00:21:04,601 --> 00:21:07,691 -It was Rick in Protocol. -It's kind of sexy when you're all: 357 00:21:07,860 --> 00:21:11,152 "Yes, sir, did you look on the bookshelf, Mr. President?" 358 00:21:11,621 --> 00:21:14,793 Go on. Get up behind the podium. I'll take your picture. 359 00:21:15,005 --> 00:21:16,966 You brought a camera? 360 00:21:17,178 --> 00:21:19,935 Go on. You belong up there. 361 00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:24,022 I started to bring this up before but didn't want to on the phone. 362 00:21:24,281 --> 00:21:27,204 -What? -I do belong here. 363 00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:32,923 -I know it. -No, I mean I really do belong here. 364 00:21:33,098 --> 00:21:35,938 -It wasn't for certain when we met but-- -What? 365 00:21:36,775 --> 00:21:38,188 I'm coming to work here. 366 00:21:39,449 --> 00:21:41,945 -Here? -My internship's ending... 367 00:21:42,123 --> 00:21:45,213 ...and I've been offered an entry-level job in the press corps. 368 00:21:45,424 --> 00:21:47,219 The White House press corps? 369 00:21:47,388 --> 00:21:49,634 I'm gonna be an off-camera reporter for NBC... 370 00:21:49,812 --> 00:21:53,353 ...making sure the on-camera reporter gets called if something happens. 371 00:21:53,530 --> 00:21:55,610 You're covering the White House... 372 00:21:56,163 --> 00:21:59,122 -...the president for a network? -I will be. 373 00:21:59,338 --> 00:22:00,966 And you let me act like... . 374 00:22:02,263 --> 00:22:04,675 -You didn't mention this. -I know. I didn't wanna-- 375 00:22:04,854 --> 00:22:06,981 Everything I said today was off the record. 376 00:22:07,194 --> 00:22:09,737 -No, of course. -He depends on my discretion. 377 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:12,584 -Charlie, I would never-- -He's not just the president. 378 00:22:14,339 --> 00:22:16,216 What do you mean? 379 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:20,639 Never mind. 380 00:22:23,072 --> 00:22:25,746 I really don't think this should change anything. 381 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:43,535 We have seats on the 1: 10, Bill. Is it Bill? 382 00:22:45,677 --> 00:22:47,970 -We'd hoped to get something earlier. -Please. 383 00:22:49,396 --> 00:22:51,440 This is murder. I'm out of here. 384 00:22:51,611 --> 00:22:54,570 -Is something wrong, sir? -Yeah, keep your 10 bucks. 385 00:22:54,786 --> 00:22:56,997 That might work. 386 00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:58,873 Is that into Dulles? 387 00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:04,478 Hi, are you a registered voter? 388 00:23:04,648 --> 00:23:07,190 Excuse me, sir, I'm with the polling group inside. 389 00:23:07,364 --> 00:23:10,038 -I saw you in there. -I was curious, why'd you walk out? 390 00:23:10,205 --> 00:23:11,536 -It's a waste of time. -Why? 391 00:23:11,709 --> 00:23:15,334 Politics. What, are you guys trying to target me or trying to find out... 392 00:23:15,512 --> 00:23:19,053 ...what makes me, I don't know--? What is it you want? 393 00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:21,393 You want me to feel like I'm part of the club? 394 00:23:21,612 --> 00:23:24,238 -Oh, maybe. -Well, you won't do it with words. 395 00:23:24,495 --> 00:23:28,334 Not words that are pre-tested and reworked, sanded down... 396 00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:31,763 ...wrapped in a bow. Hey, you wanna impress me? 397 00:23:32,392 --> 00:23:35,732 Do something. Talk's cheap, pal. 398 00:23:36,947 --> 00:23:39,704 Ever listen to the president when he addresses the nation? 399 00:23:39,872 --> 00:23:43,924 Yeah, sometimes. I usually end up throwing something at the set. 400 00:23:44,176 --> 00:23:46,422 Josh calling. What was that? 401 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:49,808 That's my guy. That's who I write for. 402 00:23:49,984 --> 00:23:51,814 -Yeah. -Toby, we need you back. 403 00:23:51,989 --> 00:23:55,697 President's made some decisions that will affect the State of the Union. 404 00:23:55,875 --> 00:23:57,253 How? 405 00:24:02,436 --> 00:24:04,646 I'm saying, if he vetoes the bill tonight-- 406 00:24:04,817 --> 00:24:06,980 How many times do I have to tell you he's--? 407 00:24:07,157 --> 00:24:08,488 He's vetoing the amendment. 408 00:24:08,661 --> 00:24:11,454 It's a veto. It's not like Congress will forget in a week. 409 00:24:11,628 --> 00:24:14,302 Could be an icy reception for the State of the Union. 410 00:24:14,511 --> 00:24:18,267 I'm still not clear about the pardons. Maybe the First Lady could explain it. 411 00:24:18,439 --> 00:24:20,815 He's not pardoning Lessieur or any ex-governors. 412 00:24:20,988 --> 00:24:22,818 He's strictly granting commutations... 413 00:24:22,993 --> 00:24:25,953 ...where minimums and guidelines resulted in unfair sentences. 414 00:24:26,169 --> 00:24:28,130 Yeah. I've been trying to say that, but-- 415 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,306 When pardons are rumored, lobbying takes on a life of its own. 416 00:24:31,476 --> 00:24:33,187 -No chance he could delay? -Hey. 417 00:24:33,356 --> 00:24:35,768 -You're straight from the airport? -Welcome to hell. 418 00:24:35,947 --> 00:24:38,703 So Congress forced our hand with a crime bill. 419 00:24:38,872 --> 00:24:41,747 The president wants to run into the fire and issue pardons. 420 00:24:41,922 --> 00:24:44,132 Plenty of lemons we can't make a thing out of. 421 00:24:44,345 --> 00:24:45,842 Except hemlock. 422 00:24:46,017 --> 00:24:49,059 Actually, I think the president's instinct is right. 423 00:24:50,028 --> 00:24:52,524 We don't run away from this. We-- 424 00:24:53,245 --> 00:24:55,408 We pack his veto of the Hicks Amendment... 425 00:24:55,585 --> 00:24:57,878 ...and his policy-based pardons... 426 00:24:58,051 --> 00:25:00,926 ...in with the speech, make it more than an isolated speech. 427 00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:03,514 Come out for gay marriage in the military too. 428 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:06,859 I'm serious. I say the president announces his veto on the eve... 429 00:25:07,034 --> 00:25:10,576 ...of the State of the Union. The next morning, his pardons are act two-- 430 00:25:10,753 --> 00:25:12,833 Of respect for federal judges. 431 00:25:13,009 --> 00:25:15,421 And prelude to his trip to the Hill that night. 432 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,561 Which now is more than hat-in-hand... 433 00:25:17,773 --> 00:25:20,268 ...begging Congress for a laundry list of priorities. 434 00:25:20,447 --> 00:25:23,407 The State of the Union becomes a few words about his agenda... 435 00:25:23,581 --> 00:25:25,957 ...from the president, who is a busy guy. 436 00:25:26,172 --> 00:25:28,501 It's the closest to what the president wants. 437 00:25:28,971 --> 00:25:31,728 -Can we pull it off? -At least we come out swinging. 438 00:25:31,896 --> 00:25:34,308 Well, we own the news. Courage of our convictions. 439 00:25:34,528 --> 00:25:37,203 Republicans will try to demagogue us with these pardons. 440 00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:39,242 We focus on the most sympathetic cases. 441 00:25:39,417 --> 00:25:42,043 Personal stories will make it less abstract. 442 00:25:42,426 --> 00:25:44,588 I gotta keep writing. 443 00:25:45,476 --> 00:25:50,824 Josh, I need you to hone this list of commutations to a perfect few. 444 00:25:50,992 --> 00:25:54,201 I understand Justice has given some 30 names to Counsel. 445 00:25:54,376 --> 00:25:57,336 -Thirty-six. We're taking a look too. -We need poster kids. 446 00:25:57,552 --> 00:26:01,177 -Former and future altar boys and girls. -Are they all in for crack? 447 00:26:01,396 --> 00:26:05,448 Not all, but we're talking mandatory minimums. That means drugs. 448 00:26:05,616 --> 00:26:07,862 -You want 10 names? -Five or six. 449 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,618 Remember how they're gonna look in the Times photo... 450 00:26:10,797 --> 00:26:13,008 ...and let's spare him any recidivists. 451 00:26:14,976 --> 00:26:18,351 The First Lady called to remind you of your invite to New Hampshire... 452 00:26:18,528 --> 00:26:19,989 ...for President's Weekend. 453 00:26:20,199 --> 00:26:24,204 She doesn't wanna pressure you, but they won't take no for an answer. 454 00:26:31,648 --> 00:26:34,690 Do we wanna comment on a rumor that FBI agents will picket... 455 00:26:36,453 --> 00:26:40,078 -...if the president pardons Lessieur? -No comment on rumors. Did the FBI? 456 00:26:40,255 --> 00:26:42,716 Bureau chief said it would only be off-duty officers. 457 00:26:42,888 --> 00:26:46,643 -Oh, good. Any other calls? -Ben of Glacier Bay. 458 00:26:46,816 --> 00:26:50,273 Is he really a park ranger? He did this Smokey the Bear riff-- 459 00:26:50,451 --> 00:26:53,243 What are you--? Don't talk to him. 460 00:26:53,418 --> 00:26:55,330 -You want me to hang up? -l-- 461 00:26:55,507 --> 00:26:58,466 Put him on hold, and find me if he calls again. 462 00:26:58,641 --> 00:27:00,352 lf? 463 00:27:01,691 --> 00:27:04,067 -You were looking for me? -Your friend's name... 464 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,330 -...for the MLK college junket. -Yeah, that's-- Forget that. 465 00:27:07,499 --> 00:27:09,294 -Isn't gonna happen. -Are you sure? 466 00:27:09,463 --> 00:27:10,960 I'm sure. 467 00:27:12,095 --> 00:27:16,766 C.J., with the press, could you ever trust a reporter? 468 00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:20,692 -Is this the beginning of a joke? -Never mind. 469 00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:27,253 Mr. Ziegler asked if you could give this a read and get him notes ASAP. 470 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:30,390 -Was he smiling? -Does he smile? 471 00:27:30,564 --> 00:27:33,024 -The Kaehlers are in the Mural Room. -Who are they? 472 00:27:33,196 --> 00:27:36,037 Moneybags from Colorado. The vice president's out of town. 473 00:27:36,205 --> 00:27:38,962 The president got held up with the Joint Chiefs. 474 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:48,486 You don't have to be pissy. 475 00:27:48,657 --> 00:27:50,534 This is not pissy. 476 00:27:50,955 --> 00:27:54,912 It's a huge risk for the president. We have to cull the list. 477 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,213 -We have to be brutal. -These 36 people... 478 00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:59,636 ...haven't been culled enough from thousands? 479 00:27:59,813 --> 00:28:03,105 -And in prison for at least five years. -For committing crimes. 480 00:28:03,281 --> 00:28:05,527 They submitted petitions that took two years... 481 00:28:05,705 --> 00:28:09,294 ...to inch from desk to desk. None are violent, although by now I would be. 482 00:28:09,465 --> 00:28:12,840 None have priors. A lot of them, their judges spoke at sentencing... 483 00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:14,971 ...against what they had to impose. 484 00:28:15,148 --> 00:28:18,987 -Doesn't mean we stop scrutinizing. -Scrutinize away. You tell me, do we... 485 00:28:19,159 --> 00:28:21,655 ...toss out Daisy Aimes, mother of three, two jobs... 486 00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,246 ...had a boyfriend who stored a kilo in her closet? 487 00:28:24,424 --> 00:28:26,551 She's done eight years and is facing 11 more. 488 00:28:26,722 --> 00:28:29,134 That's longer than rapists and child molesters get. 489 00:28:29,313 --> 00:28:31,226 There's about 15 Daisys in here. 490 00:28:31,402 --> 00:28:32,780 -Do we pick three? -Donna-- 491 00:28:32,948 --> 00:28:36,787 You haven't read these files or looked at these photos, and I don't blame you. 492 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,706 I wish I never had. 493 00:28:38,882 --> 00:28:41,460 But I don't see a list anymore. 494 00:28:41,639 --> 00:28:43,969 These are people. 495 00:28:44,188 --> 00:28:48,574 If you wanna cull them, jump in. I'm done. 496 00:28:48,743 --> 00:28:51,155 Sorry, am I...? 497 00:28:51,333 --> 00:28:53,911 No. He's got the Kaehlers in the Mural Room, we know. 498 00:28:54,091 --> 00:28:56,801 You may wanna skip them. They're not here by chance. 499 00:28:56,974 --> 00:28:59,815 -What do you mean? -Their son petitioned for clemency. 500 00:28:59,983 --> 00:29:03,405 -They're here to plead his case. -There's a major party contributor... 501 00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:05,656 ...with a family member under consideration? 502 00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:08,834 -No Kaehler on the list. -The wife's son, a former marriage. 503 00:29:09,008 --> 00:29:10,921 His name is Morrisey. 504 00:29:11,766 --> 00:29:13,893 Donovan Morrisey? 505 00:29:15,234 --> 00:29:18,656 Estes Park. High school senior who FedEx'd LSD. 506 00:29:18,869 --> 00:29:20,616 -I can tell them you're tied up. -No. 507 00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:23,503 I will. 508 00:29:28,145 --> 00:29:29,642 Charlie. 509 00:29:29,817 --> 00:29:32,395 -He's gone for the day. -She's gonna be working here. 510 00:29:32,575 --> 00:29:35,497 -You can't ignore her. -Good night, Angela. 511 00:29:35,667 --> 00:29:38,709 Take her calls. Don't get mad and write her off the guest list. 512 00:29:38,884 --> 00:29:40,927 She's beyond college editors. Way beyond. 513 00:29:41,099 --> 00:29:44,973 -Her family founded The Afro-American. -lf you wanna know a girl's whole life... 514 00:29:45,152 --> 00:29:48,527 ...before getting involved, I have two words for you: search engine. 515 00:29:48,703 --> 00:29:51,995 -You knew about the corps? -I didn't. I'm friends with her aunt. 516 00:29:52,172 --> 00:29:55,594 Should've guessed. The web of District aunts can't be avoided. 517 00:29:55,765 --> 00:29:58,261 Unless you date the president's daughter. 518 00:29:58,941 --> 00:30:01,067 Have a nice weekend. 519 00:30:02,451 --> 00:30:05,576 -How did it ever get this far? -He has his mother's name. 520 00:30:05,752 --> 00:30:08,378 He fit all our criteria for commutation. 521 00:30:08,718 --> 00:30:11,178 We didn't put it together. Maybe the press won't. 522 00:30:11,392 --> 00:30:14,149 -Sir, if they do-- -Your message gets stampeded. 523 00:30:14,317 --> 00:30:16,397 "White House bends justice for big bucks. " 524 00:30:16,574 --> 00:30:19,533 -Even though we weren't. -And who's gonna believe that? 525 00:30:19,749 --> 00:30:22,791 The kid's parents practically bankroll the Colorado party... 526 00:30:22,967 --> 00:30:26,057 -...and that White House visit. -So this kid gets screwed... 527 00:30:26,226 --> 00:30:30,147 -...for having an important family. -You can commute him in the future. 528 00:30:31,073 --> 00:30:33,913 How's Counsel doing on the rest of the list? 529 00:30:34,123 --> 00:30:38,080 I touched base with them about an idea. I know you and Toby need to work on... 530 00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:40,636 -...the new speech parts. -We need to settle this. 531 00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:43,857 If you wanna throw light on how minimums and guidelines... 532 00:30:44,026 --> 00:30:46,866 ...conspire to produce disproportionate punishment-- 533 00:30:47,076 --> 00:30:48,739 And worse, leave judges impotent. 534 00:30:48,957 --> 00:30:53,092 Our judicial system is predicated on an individual's right to a fair trial. 535 00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:59,060 But how individual is that process if a 258-box grid seals your fate... 536 00:30:59,277 --> 00:31:02,237 ...before you ever step foot in front of a federal judge... 537 00:31:02,411 --> 00:31:05,620 ...that my office has invested considerable effort in selecting... 538 00:31:05,796 --> 00:31:09,253 ...who is then constrained from exercising basic common sense... 539 00:31:09,431 --> 00:31:13,935 ...while 29-year-old prosecutors, making their bones on their win-loss record... 540 00:31:14,111 --> 00:31:16,654 ...hold the only discretion in the whole system? 541 00:31:17,245 --> 00:31:18,742 -Were you taking notes? -Got it. 542 00:31:18,916 --> 00:31:23,171 Sir, let's say the list stays at 36 names, or 35 without this Colorado man. 543 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,056 We don't monkey around creating a few poster kids. 544 00:31:26,228 --> 00:31:30,364 We say all these cases represent a larger injustice. It's not just about them. 545 00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:37,710 -Is she waiting outside? -She is. 546 00:31:37,886 --> 00:31:40,132 -But honestly, sir, l-- -No. 547 00:31:40,352 --> 00:31:44,142 She took the bullet we all managed to dodge. Show her in, please. 548 00:31:47,330 --> 00:31:49,872 Hey. You can come in. 549 00:31:51,717 --> 00:31:53,048 Mr. President. 550 00:31:53,221 --> 00:31:55,051 I understand you have a message for me. 551 00:31:55,227 --> 00:31:58,067 Yes, sir. I promised Mrs. Kaehler I'd do my best. 552 00:31:58,235 --> 00:32:00,030 What did she say? 553 00:32:01,578 --> 00:32:04,751 She said her son, Donovan, made a terrible mistake... 554 00:32:04,921 --> 00:32:06,548 ...when he was still a teenager. 555 00:32:06,718 --> 00:32:10,307 It doesn't excuse anything, but her divorce was very hard on him. 556 00:32:10,478 --> 00:32:13,152 By the time he went to trial, the shock of his arrest... 557 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,197 ...had given her family a wake-up call. 558 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:17,696 Donovan had completed a drug-treatment program... 559 00:32:17,874 --> 00:32:20,452 ...finished high school and been accepted to college. 560 00:32:20,674 --> 00:32:24,179 The guidelines prevented the judge from considering any of those things. 561 00:32:25,019 --> 00:32:27,979 She said after Donovan finished one year in prison... 562 00:32:28,153 --> 00:32:31,860 ...missed one birthday, one Christmas, one fly-fishing season... 563 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,044 ...the other six years he spent in Leavenworth have been a frozen hell. 564 00:32:36,426 --> 00:32:40,431 Her words, "a frozen hell. " She wasn't-- She's-- 565 00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:44,819 She's someone who copes. 566 00:32:45,702 --> 00:32:51,217 But she said if it would make a difference, she'd get on her knees. 567 00:32:52,137 --> 00:32:54,467 She begged for your mercy. 568 00:32:57,151 --> 00:32:58,814 That's all. 569 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:02,790 Thank you, Donna. 570 00:33:20,551 --> 00:33:22,428 Mr. President? 571 00:33:25,063 --> 00:33:26,608 Take him. 572 00:33:27,487 --> 00:33:29,032 Take Donovan off the list. 573 00:33:31,122 --> 00:33:35,044 You can pardon him in the spring, after the dust settles. 574 00:33:35,468 --> 00:33:37,179 Yeah. 575 00:33:44,034 --> 00:33:48,205 The price tag for our failure to learn this lesson is far too costly. 576 00:33:50,051 --> 00:33:52,926 We must listen to what our federal judges are telling us... 577 00:33:53,101 --> 00:33:55,941 ...about the sentencing guidelines and mandatory minimums. 578 00:33:58,073 --> 00:34:01,698 Congress has to wean itself from the expensive high of enacting laws... 579 00:34:01,876 --> 00:34:04,371 ...which appear tough on crime but are ineffective. 580 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:07,224 I will never surrender in the war on drugs... 581 00:34:07,391 --> 00:34:10,813 ...but if you're consistently getting slaughtered on the battlefield... 582 00:34:10,985 --> 00:34:12,862 ...you've probably misjudged your enemy. 583 00:34:13,032 --> 00:34:16,954 I don't offer these pardons today to kingpins or career traffickers... 584 00:34:17,127 --> 00:34:19,622 ...who lay waste to our innocent citizens. 585 00:34:19,801 --> 00:34:22,843 But I do extend these clemencies like amnesties... 586 00:34:23,019 --> 00:34:25,514 ...after a prolonged, bloody war... 587 00:34:25,693 --> 00:34:29,947 ...to some among us who have fallen to a ravaging and confounding enemy. 588 00:34:30,122 --> 00:34:34,043 I offer these clemencies confident that if we re-enlist... 589 00:34:34,217 --> 00:34:37,924 ...our judges ' wisdom, we stand a better chance of prevailing against crime. 590 00:34:40,067 --> 00:34:42,609 We have to accept that to be truly tough on crime... 591 00:34:42,783 --> 00:34:44,862 ... we must first understand how to be smart. 592 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,201 That's our boy. 593 00:34:48,047 --> 00:34:49,710 It is not a simple lack of.... 594 00:34:49,886 --> 00:34:54,640 If it was you whispering pardons in his ear, it was the right thing. 595 00:34:54,817 --> 00:34:57,027 I don't whisper, Leo. 596 00:34:57,324 --> 00:34:59,700 That's not how it works between us. 597 00:35:01,711 --> 00:35:05,799 My job is to help Jed be as good a president as he is a man. 598 00:35:07,059 --> 00:35:09,519 I'm not gonna sit back and judge anymore. 599 00:35:09,692 --> 00:35:12,068 I'm gonna jump in and get my hands dirty. 600 00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:14,451 We can use the help. 601 00:35:15,416 --> 00:35:17,163 Come on in here. 602 00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:18,758 Let's have a cup of tea... 603 00:35:18,926 --> 00:35:21,886 ...unless you ignore my invitations on principle these days. 604 00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:24,306 About President's Weekend, I'm thrilled. 605 00:35:25,236 --> 00:35:28,408 -But I thought I'd give you a chance-- -To back out? 606 00:35:28,578 --> 00:35:31,205 We want to see you. We invited you. 607 00:35:31,378 --> 00:35:35,299 It's been ages since we stayed up late, arguing the proper sequence... 608 00:35:35,473 --> 00:35:40,524 -...of hands in Shanghai Rum. -It's one set, one run, a run and a set. 609 00:35:40,696 --> 00:35:44,951 I thought you might reconsider. You may not have gotten your invitation yet. 610 00:35:45,125 --> 00:35:47,252 -Is this about Jenny's wedding? -Yeah. 611 00:35:47,423 --> 00:35:51,642 I can't dress for this thing without you. Which one screams "dominance"? 612 00:35:51,811 --> 00:35:53,973 -Do I get to wear it afterwards? -No comment. 613 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:56,277 -Darjeeling? -Thank you. 614 00:35:56,449 --> 00:36:00,073 Leo thinks we should reconsider attending his ex-wife's wedding. 615 00:36:00,251 --> 00:36:02,128 -No way. -You're old friends. 616 00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:04,551 -Jenny'd like it. -We plan on sending them... 617 00:36:04,722 --> 00:36:07,098 -...something nice, don't we? -For the kitchen. 618 00:36:07,271 --> 00:36:09,981 -A juicer, maybe. -Encourage Howard to lose weight. 619 00:36:10,154 --> 00:36:13,077 Or his-and-hers binoculars. They have these prism optics now. 620 00:36:13,288 --> 00:36:17,589 I don't think Howard goes outdoors. He's more of a Discovery Channel type. 621 00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,884 That's probably better, with his asthma. A nice book, then. 622 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,270 -Something with large print, of course. -Yeah. 623 00:36:23,441 --> 00:36:25,853 -We'll think of something. -You two are evil. 624 00:36:26,032 --> 00:36:27,577 We've always loved Jenny. 625 00:36:27,745 --> 00:36:30,455 But you're the one we wanna spend the weekend with. 626 00:36:30,921 --> 00:36:32,751 To union. 627 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:36,179 -All states of it. -Hear, hear. 628 00:36:39,111 --> 00:36:40,488 Josh Lyman's office. 629 00:36:40,657 --> 00:36:42,819 Now I remember why I love this night. 630 00:36:42,997 --> 00:36:45,207 That's me. I'm Donna Moss. 631 00:36:45,378 --> 00:36:48,135 -The press conference was a hit. -The president did well. 632 00:36:48,303 --> 00:36:51,263 Ranting on cable about "that liberal pantywaist soft on crime"? 633 00:36:51,437 --> 00:36:53,350 What we expected. 634 00:36:53,568 --> 00:36:55,695 Extra gum for your big night. 635 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,880 -Guess this makes it official. -You do your family proud. 636 00:37:03,053 --> 00:37:05,346 Shouldn't I just stick my head in and say hello? 637 00:37:05,518 --> 00:37:07,349 -I wouldn't. -I'd keep it professional. 638 00:37:07,524 --> 00:37:09,104 You know, just shake hands. 639 00:37:09,279 --> 00:37:11,857 -I don't want it to be awkward. -I don't believe you. 640 00:37:12,037 --> 00:37:15,994 "Broken heart" is written all over you. State of the Union's in less than an hour. 641 00:37:16,173 --> 00:37:19,133 -I just thought-- -Don't be a fool. Stay out of there. 642 00:37:33,096 --> 00:37:36,138 -It's Gentle Ben on hold. -You put him on hold? 643 00:37:36,314 --> 00:37:39,771 -That's what you told me to do. -Carol, maybe you ought to-- 644 00:37:40,701 --> 00:37:42,697 -C.J. -Donna, my darling... 645 00:37:42,874 --> 00:37:48,340 ...would you pick up line one and tell this guy you can't find me? 646 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:51,263 What's wrong? 647 00:37:51,481 --> 00:37:56,448 I just had a call from Anne Kaehler, Donovan's sister. 648 00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:59,620 He killed himself. 649 00:38:01,718 --> 00:38:03,549 Who's Donovan? 650 00:38:08,362 --> 00:38:09,990 I lost Mr. Ziegler. He was here. 651 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:12,155 Sorry. Can't help. 652 00:38:16,510 --> 00:38:18,257 -You heard? -It hit the wires? 653 00:38:18,474 --> 00:38:20,601 I got a call. Does the president know? 654 00:38:20,772 --> 00:38:24,444 -Looks like the gang is hovering. -Come on in, guys. 655 00:38:25,452 --> 00:38:27,698 What's up? 656 00:38:29,756 --> 00:38:32,334 -Go on. -We've got this. 657 00:38:43,252 --> 00:38:44,963 Charlie? 658 00:38:45,759 --> 00:38:48,635 -Ms. Anders. -"Ms. "? 659 00:38:49,144 --> 00:38:52,269 -You sorry son of a-- -Charlie, are we...? 660 00:38:54,785 --> 00:38:56,198 I beg your pardon. 661 00:38:56,373 --> 00:38:59,129 Mr. President, may I have a moment? 662 00:39:04,437 --> 00:39:07,562 -There's nothing you could've done. -It's stupid. 663 00:39:07,738 --> 00:39:09,734 -I don't even know why-- -It's not stupid. 664 00:39:09,911 --> 00:39:11,622 You met them. 665 00:39:11,833 --> 00:39:13,579 They got to you. 666 00:39:13,755 --> 00:39:16,512 I need to learn how to not be so... . 667 00:39:17,014 --> 00:39:19,724 How to keep things at arm's length. 668 00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:22,986 I hope not. 669 00:39:24,243 --> 00:39:27,249 We're heading over. The president asked if you'd escort... 670 00:39:27,418 --> 00:39:29,331 ...the special guests. 671 00:39:34,104 --> 00:39:37,645 -A one-night thing was better? -Three weeks was too long. 672 00:39:37,823 --> 00:39:40,283 Charlie, they're ready. 673 00:39:46,556 --> 00:39:49,432 Actually, the first two weeks were pretty great. 674 00:39:49,648 --> 00:39:52,060 When you thought I was nobody? No threat? 675 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,323 I protect him. It's my job. 676 00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:56,990 And I meant no threat to you. 677 00:39:57,545 --> 00:40:01,419 When you said he wasn't just the president, I understood. 678 00:40:02,476 --> 00:40:04,436 I'll see you around, Meeshell. 679 00:40:20,652 --> 00:40:23,028 Were you surprised by the warmth of the reception? 680 00:40:24,914 --> 00:40:27,624 I was. Consider our government gridlock two months ago... 681 00:40:27,797 --> 00:40:31,754 ...over budget disputes, tonight's State of the Union had a forward momentum. 682 00:40:31,934 --> 00:40:35,309 Absolutely. Let's take another look at some of the high points. 683 00:40:35,485 --> 00:40:40,120 The hard work of forming this more perfect union belongs to us all. 684 00:40:40,291 --> 00:40:42,965 We need to be as wise as we are resolute... 685 00:40:43,132 --> 00:40:44,795 ...as smart as we are strong. 686 00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:47,763 The president will join us shortly for photos. 687 00:40:47,937 --> 00:40:50,314 If anyone would like refreshments... . 688 00:40:56,378 --> 00:40:58,540 That was quite a speech the president made. 689 00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,296 -Quite a day for your organization. -Yes, ma'am. 690 00:41:01,475 --> 00:41:05,100 I wish that you could've been in there when we made those 35 phone calls... 691 00:41:05,278 --> 00:41:07,404 ...to the families this morning. 692 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:12,244 -President Bartlet. Wonderful speech, sir. -Thank you. 693 00:41:12,423 --> 00:41:15,964 Mr. President, this is Mr. Holmes of Families Against Mandatory Minimums. 694 00:41:16,142 --> 00:41:17,603 -How are you, sir? -Sir. 695 00:41:17,771 --> 00:41:20,017 -And his sister, Kandy. -Hi. 696 00:41:20,237 --> 00:41:21,900 She just got home a few hours ago. 697 00:41:22,075 --> 00:41:24,915 Sir, there are no words to express our gratitude. 698 00:41:25,084 --> 00:41:28,506 -Today has been overwhelming. -Thank you, sir. 699 00:41:29,346 --> 00:41:32,435 Kandy was saying she feels like she's been hit by lightning. 700 00:41:32,605 --> 00:41:34,898 I hope it's not quite that random. 701 00:41:35,279 --> 00:41:37,156 I can never repay you. 702 00:41:37,326 --> 00:41:38,954 Oh, yes, you can. 703 00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:43,039 You got the second chance you deserve, but it's also a heck of a burden. 704 00:41:43,218 --> 00:41:46,224 If you screw up, you don't just hurt yourself and your family. 705 00:41:46,394 --> 00:41:50,149 You damage me, and worse, you hurt all those prisoners still hoping... 706 00:41:50,363 --> 00:41:53,073 ...for the fair shake most of them won't get. 707 00:41:53,497 --> 00:41:55,873 -Am I right, Donna? -Yes, Mr. President. 708 00:41:56,046 --> 00:41:58,173 You need to take your life in your hands... 709 00:41:58,344 --> 00:42:02,599 ...and make sure that none of those left behind are ever more deserving than you. 710 00:42:03,066 --> 00:42:05,692 I will, sir. I promise. 711 00:42:05,907 --> 00:42:07,987 -Okay. -Thank you. 712 00:42:08,163 --> 00:42:09,826 -Keep in touch. -Yes, sir. 713 00:42:11,381 --> 00:42:13,092 Bless you all. 714 00:42:13,261 --> 00:42:15,887 It must be an honor to work for him. 715 00:42:18,317 --> 00:42:20,278 It is. 716 00:42:21,305 --> 00:42:27,710 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org